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Saving/Save As + User Categories & Banks

Sunfalls
Saving/Save As + Categories & Custom Banks:

I apologize in advance. But this afternoon of attempting to save custom patches to a custom bank has me defeated. I cannot seem to copy/past voices into anywhere except the list they are in.
I have somehow overwritten the INIT patch multiple times trying to create different patches using the "Save" function, only to have to "load from backup" to factory reset.
I created a category for my patches and even moved it to the top of the Category list. Yet, nothing I "save" there, ends up there. Some were ending up as far down as like, randomly at # 117 in an empty list.

Long pressing Save doesn't seem to help.
I do so, and choose, say "H", which is empty, save my custom preset there.
Then go back to my Performance, choose a voice and scroll to "H" to find my newly created sound, and nothing. Empty List.
I load a blank Performance, tap the 1st Init Voice, edit said voice,
long press Save As and it doesn't save to my performance, and can't find it in any list, and I've overwritten the INIT patch again!
What. am. i. doing. wrong?

How are folks creating whole user banks? I can't even fill a user category.

Can someone please make a video of these techniques? Please. Please. Please.
- how to start from a blank Performance, or voice, create a custom sound, or modify an existing sound, save as to your own list, and then load that in a Performance
- how to start from an INIT voice, Save As to your own category/Bank, and load that into a performance.
- copy/past voices to your own category/Bank
- Can we extract a voice from a patch list, to use as our own? Like in the "Kicks" patch, how do we copy or extract, say, Kick number 4 from the patch list, and use it as a standalone Voice in a Performance???

It would be helpful if the manual had a complete "How To" section on:
saving/Save As, creating & editing user categories, voice vs patch banks, copy/pasting presets.
As of now it just tells us what they are.
Sorry for the venting, but man. I've hit an interface wall.
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Sunfalls
Got great tip from Soarer πŸ˜‡πŸ˜Ž Many thanks!

-start from the Voice section, double tap save
-create Patch from voice, save as to location
-load into performance as needed
Smooth workflow for now πŸ˜‰

Any thoughts on these:

-> I have somehow overwritten the INIT patch multiple times trying to create different patches using the "Save" function, only to have to "load from backup" to factory reset.
I load empty performance, click on the init voice, edit said voice, "save as- β€œsnare” to an empty slot, now all my inits are snares.

-> Can we extract a voice from a patch list, to use as our own?
Like in the "Kicks" patch, extract, say, Kick number 4 from the patch list, and use it as a standalone Voice in a Performance?

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