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Delay MIDI clock setting.

Kwerky
Hi there
Having the option for MIDI timing for timed effects, especially delay/echo, would make a big difference.

Thanks
John
Isn't the echo timed? Then the echo is almost unusable ... that would be decisive for my purchase
KODAMO
For the delay/echo, you have a length specified both in seconds/milliseconds and BPM, so it's easy to select the right value.
It doesn't sync to MIDI clock though, we aren't sure if that feature will be part of the next firmware yet.
Kwerky
Yeah, about that.
I rely on changing BPM on the fly and from song to song that use the same patches. I have a master clock for that.
Without MIDI sync, I can't use delay on the Kodamo and having to steal outboard effects usually used with other gear just for the delay - and reverb comes after delay, so that's outboard too.
Really looking forward to timed effects being synced to MIDI clock.
dstengle
I would also like to see this. Just learning about beat synced delay and want to use it more.
Colin Muir Dorward
I think the problem with offering midi sync is it introduces the problem of needing to do it well.
What I mean is you can't have dynamic delay-time without re-engineering the delay algorithm. BBD and variable-sample-rate-based delay effects (eg pt2399) give you time-modulation for free, but AFAIK DSP-delay effects usually use a fixed sample-rate with variable memory/buffer size. It's outside my pay grade to explain the details, but if you look at any delay unit past say, 1990, you'll see that it's DSP-based, and that you don't get time-modulation. So this means when you change delay time, you get zippering (I guess basically they just choose the output from a different location in the buffer). This isn't to say it can't be done, obviously Eventide cornered the market on this feature using DSP, but even for example the TC fireworx, which cost what, $2k new? doesn't offer delay time modulation (except in the chorus algo).

Soooo, I'm kind of rambling here, but I see this requested very often, and frankly I can very much understand why it may not ever be implemented. I think EFM is above all an FM synth, and if the effects are not spectacular, well, go buy an eventide ;)

Hold on though, Kodamo really does seem to have their shit together... ๐Ÿ˜‰
KODAMO
That's exactly what we did for the new firmware, we improved the delay algorithm itself (to handle duration changes without clicks, doing a pitch-shift effect instead) and the BPM calculation stability from MIDI clock. Both of these were needed to make it useable, otherwise people would've hated us ๐Ÿ˜€
Colin Muir Dorward
What can I say, you guys nailed it!
Kwerky
This makes a huge difference to my setup and a weight off my shoulders.
Thank you very much. ๐Ÿ˜€ ๐Ÿงก
Kwerky
Having had time to update and try EFMii's new firmware, I'm really happy with how the MIDI sync delay works.
It handles radical changes in clock tempo gracefully, awesome.

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